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Subject: COS offered me $10,000.00 today
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 20:10:23 -0500
From: "Jeaux" <jeauxblo@mindspring.com>
Organization: MindSpring Enterprises
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Le gars qui me manie, Ted Banas, m'a envoyé un associé pour me passer un chèque de 10000
dollars...
Ce gars, Monte, m'a emmené dans un bon restaurant.
Ni Banas ni Monte ne sont scientologues; ils ont toujours été corrects jusqu'ici. Monte avait
les 10000 dollars. Il suffisait que je signe un accord disant que je ne dirai plus jamais rien de mal contre la
secte. L'accord achetait mon silence, mais je ne pouvais en parler à personne!
J'ignorais le montant du chèque avant le déjeûner. Non seulement le montant était
une insulte, mais l'accord honteux et l'argent supposé acheter mon silence, tout cela étant supposé
remplacer mon remboursement, ça ne risquait pas de passer! Mais j'ai quand-même discuté deux
heures avec Monte.
L'accord m'aurait forcé à payer de mon côté 10000 dollars à la sciento à
chaque fois que j'aurais parlé péjorativement d'eux ou écrit à leur sujet! Et il m'était
intedit d'en parler à qui que ce soit!
J'écris un livre "Les raisons de croire", décrivant comment une religion aussi frauduleuse
peut attirer des personnes intelligentes. Je vais peut-être devenir riche! En tout cas, c'était une
méchante tentative de leur part pour essayer de m'arracher mes droits de liberté de parole...
Mon idée, c'est que je dois aider et guider ceux qui recherchent la vérité humaine et spirituelle.
Cette fausse église piège des gens sincères et les détourne de leur recherche.
Essayer de m'acheter avec ces 10000 dollars après m'avoir dépouillé de 112822,26
n'est qu'une des manoeuvres criminelles d'OSA.
J'avais écrit à l'IRS [fisc américain] pour leur indiquer comment la scientologie, qui
bénéficie du statut non-lucratif, escroquait des gens comme moi. depuis, j'ai eu deux offres de remboursement,
dont celle-ci...
N'ayant pu me rendre ce qu'ils me doivent, ils ont démontré comment ils conservaient l'argent,
et à quel point ils étaient réfractaires à tout remboursement [contrairement à
leurs engagements auprès de l'IRS,ndt]
Je recommande à tous ceux qui exigent un remboursement ou un retour d'argent de la secte d'expédier
un double de leur demande à l'Attorney General et aux services de l'IRS.
Ces 112822,26 dollars ne représentent en fait qu'une partie des torts causés par la secte. Ils
ont continué leurs actions de commando de vente, et réussi à obtenir un autre quart de million
de dollars: heureusment, je suis revenu à moi et j'ai empèché que ces chèques soient
encaissés.
Réagissant à leurs menaces "que je sois mauvais, si je ne leur donnais pas tout", j'ai
mal investi (trop vite) l'argent que j'avais, de suite après, et perdu 175 000 dollars de plus.
J'ai fini par tenter de mettre fin à mes jours après des mois d'accusations coercitives et sadique,
car je refusais d'admettre que j'étais mauavis. J'ai enfin réagi à la peur, et j'ai déménagé
à Los Angeles pour aller à l'org avancée de scientologie. J'ai alors vendu mes meubles, d'une
valeur d'environ 150 000 dollars, pour... 6000 dollars.
Sans oublier ce que mes enfants ont dû subir durant ces six années...
Et la secte scientologie voudrait m'offrir royalement 10000 dollars pour que je me taise?
Je crois avoir mieux à faire que d'encaisser cet argent: exposer tout le mal qu'elle peut faire dans
la société.
David Alexander
A quoi Garry Scarff répondait:
Subject: Re: COS offered me $10,000.00 today
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 19:27:06 -0700
From: Garry <skanda@pacbell.net>
Organization: Pacific Bell Internet Services
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Ils se foutent de toi, David: ils m'ont fait le même coup en Floride voici quelques années: ils
voulaient me verser 175000 dollars pour que je revienne sur lmes dépositions et témoignages en justice,
ce qui m'aurait contraint au parjure sur tout ce qui concernait la sciento... J'en ai parlé avec les Young,
et hop, je les ai envoyés paître.
Garry
Voici la réponse de David à Garry:
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Subject: Re: COS offered me $10,000.00 today
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 21:33:59 -0500
From: "Jeaux" <jeauxblo@mindspring.com>
Organization: MindSpring Enterprises
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
I forgot to explain the source of my money. I got $543,000.00 in a court
award after a fall from a faulty ladder at a shopping center where I was
working.
J'avais omis de donner la source de mes fonds: j'ai obtenu 543000 dollars de dommages et intérêts
après être tombé d'une échelle défectueuse dans un centre commercial. On voulait
m'amputer des deux jambes... finalement, la clinique Mayo a décidé de ne pas m'amputer, mais qu'il
faudrait cinq ans avant d'avoir une opération
The first doctors wanted to amputate both legs below the knee. I went to
Mayo clinc where they told me there was no need to amputate, but that I
should wait for about five years before I have corrective surgery. I spent
three months in the hospital, and was in a wheel chair for a year. Today I
get around pretty well, but I walk kind of funny.
It looks like I'll never get the corrective surgery--unless my book pays off
well.
Anyone who considers getting into Scientology should consider whether they
have enough money for Scientology's insatiable appetite for money.
David Alexander
mail passé sur alt.religion.scientology par D.Gozinya, d'après paraî-il un affidavit de 1987
(non confirmé ailleurs pour l'instant, mais ressemblant complètement aux méthodes des organisations
centrales importantes)
In the late seventies I paid the Church of Scientology approsimately $4000
in advance for "NOTS", to be delivered at the Advanced 0rganization in
Clearwater, Florida. At this time my wife and myself had at least $17,000
on account as advanced payments with the Church. When I arrived at
Clearwater, the registrar asked if I'd be able to afford additional funds
in the unlikely event that they might be necessary for "special repair
actions" I confided that I did have some personal reserves invested in
precious metals. Even though I was scheduled to begin "auditing" within the
hour, I was suddenly told that the "Case Supervisor" had decided not to
permit me to begin unless I paid in advance for additional "auditing" to
the amount Of my personal reserve savings mentioned above. I petitioned all
the way up to the "Commanding Officer" of the Advanced Organization,
pointing out that I had been promised I could begin with the $4000 payment
and had already paid for plane fare out from my home in Los Angeles, and to
cash in my assets would require personally returning to L.A. and wasting
double the plane fare. They were adamant in their insistence. I returned to
L.A. and sold the gold at a substantial loss and sent them the money. But I
insisted this time that I wanted a written promise that the Church's
"Senior Policy" would be followed ("Always deliver what you promiseM") and
that I would not be again refused service without warning.
The promise never came, although I was told it had been sent. I began to
tell them I was having a change of heart and was considerinq asking for a
refund. (To actually ask for a refund would get me excommunicated.) The
promise then came in the form of a telex, which I found (based on the
Western Union coded data) had a falsified date. I then discovered that the
staff was telling people that I had been sent back to Los Angeles because I
had failed to get "Ethics Clearance". This was a lie, because I still have
the routing form which has my ethics clearance signed off. I then told them
I wanted my money back--more to get their attention than to sever my ties
with the organization which I still regarded as too valuable to do without.
"Chaplain Worldwide" Robert Harvey phoned me to persuade me to withdraw my
request for refund. He actually confided to me that the order preventing me
from starting my service had indeed not come from the Case Supervisor, but
from the registrars to get my additional funds they knew about. I then
realized, in view of the fact that this order had been upheld all the way
to the top, that I was dealing with a criminal organization. I then
formally in writing demanded a refund of all my advanced payments totalling
approsimately $17,000.
I was given endless runarounds and innumerable people to talk to. I finally
began a dialogue with Heber Jentzch, the nominal head of Scientology in the
U.S. After much frustration I got him to admit that the actual Church
"policy" (as opposed to the publicly stated policy) was to refund money
only in the face of a serious legal threat. I accordingly documented to
Heber that I was in communication with the staff of the TV program "60
Minutes", at which point the money was returned to me in full.
I consider myself lucky. I know people who are still owed comparable sums
for undelivered services. These situations must be publicized so people can
evaluate whom they are trusting their money with and whom they are trusting
to help them.
During' my tenure in scientology from 1961 to 1983 my life became more and
more controlled by the dictums of the administration - I learned the skills
of artfully getting around their capricious authority, always hoping that
things would get better. In March of 1983 I was attacked so viciously that
I gave up and left. Since leaving I have had the opportunity to see
documents that were interdicted to me while under their control, and I
realize that the destructive acts I witnessed and experienced were
deliberately planned, not the errors of an underling. Conduct and belief
are two separate things. But the scientologists believe that their beliefs
are facts, that only they know them and that therefore, it entitles them to
do anything to preserve and expand their status - as only they can save
mankind.
In 1983 and subsequently, they systematically destroyed my business, as
they did with Larry Wollersheim earlier (see the decision in Wollersheim
vs. Scientology). A large percentage of the clients in my nutrition and
exercise business were scientologists: they were called in and told that if
they frequented my business any further they would be expelled from
scientology. I was told to close down my business and pay them 11,000 for
reconditioning in Clearwater or else I would be expelled. In May I was
expelled in a scurrilous 7-page document that was entirely lies. My
business declined until I became bankrupt. Later the person in charge of
the mission against me left scientology, and when I spoke with him he said
the only reason they'd wanted me out of business was that I was earning
money that should have been going to them. (This man, Don Larson, has also
testified, I am told, to the FBI and IRS in their well-warranted
investigations of tortious conduct.)
They did a similar action on a grander scale to a real estate magnate at
the time, Richard Stewart: everyone who had taken his real estate courses
had to travel to Florida to "Flag" in Clearwater and take a special course
there for several hundred dollars or be suspended from scientology. This is
religion? Later some people involved with ordering that, who were
themselves attacked and left, admitted to me that was to raise money for
Flag.
Mr. Stewart to this day is afraid to speak up about any of this - they had
a dozen of their uniformed guards enter his business premises and go
through all his records and checkbooks, after which they fined him in the
5-figures. I was on his premises when they were there, and attest it is
true.
In May of '83 I was expelled, received several letters telling me I was
doomed to the abyss of hell forever, and all my friends and asociates who
were scientologists refused to speak to me. Just yesterday I ran into a man
who had been a very close friend, a prominent LA artist, who looked at me
and said "OH" and walked by unseeing. Last year I ran into someone I'd
known who started shouting at me, "Walking Dead!"
Since I left I have appeared on television, radio, and had meetings of ex-
scientologists to show them videos, such as the video of the 1982
Clearwater hearings. I edited the 30 hours down to 3 so it could be seen.
For two years we had a weekly support group of ex-scientologists, a much
needed therapy. All had horror stories to tell. Now we have an annual
gathering, and a newsletter with a circulation of thousands of ex-
scientologists.
They sent their "Minutemen" squad to shout at my house, pass out fliers on
the street, flash photos, and throw eggs
at my house. My friend in Pasadena had maggots thrown in her house, too.
They sent an investigator to talk to my neighbors and insinuate ugly things
about me. They called some of my friends and told them things about my past
that had been confessed in religious ritual to one of their ministers.
They have sued me twice, both for silly things just to bother me. As I was
Fair Game their goal was to destroy me utterly.
> . > > > . . . > > > Any questions? < < < . . . < < < . < FS101.5a
Read for yourself the seemingly endless tracts of damaged souls who have
managed to survive Fair Game, and wonder how many thousands of others have
been shamed into permanent silence by godless demon scientology policy
makers and followers:
http://www.xenu.org/factnet/SCN/FILES/LEGAL/MANYAFFS.TXT
http://wpxx02.toxi.uni-wuerzburg.de/~krasel/CoS/aff/index.html
FS Steinman ne: You good scientologists should do something about this.
You may be next on the "hit" list, especially if you blow. It seems that
the more you know the worse the tactics will be. So you might as well grab
all the files you can on your way out the door, and head for Tory's or the
LMT. A computer and access to the internet will save your life. Good
luck.
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